BipolarComposer Posted December 10, 2021 Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) Toccata for Flute and Clarinet "Synchronized" Edited December 12, 2021 by BipolarComposer Made some Changes Quote
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted December 10, 2021 Posted December 10, 2021 Nice job! It's an interesting piece despite only using one texture and quite possibly only one interval between the flute and clarinet (although I can't be totally sure without looking at the score). You're using some nice high quality flute and clarinet sounds to produce this rendering. The only downside is that there's no breathing nor ebb and flow of natural sounding phrases .. in that way its kinda robotic. Also it would have been nice to hear some independence from each instruments although I guess it does seem like you intended to create a kind of concept piece out of only parallel motion between the flute and clarinet. It is fun to hear though! Thanks for sharing. Quote
BipolarComposer Posted December 10, 2021 Author Posted December 10, 2021 (edited) 9 hours ago, PeterthePapercomPoser said: Nice job! It's an interesting piece despite only using one texture and quite possibly only one interval between the flute and clarinet (although I can't be totally sure without looking at the score). You're using some nice high quality flute and clarinet sounds to produce this rendering. The only downside is that there's no breathing nor ebb and flow of natural sounding phrases .. in that way its kinda robotic. Also it would have been nice to hear some independence from each instruments although I guess it does seem like you intended to create a kind of concept piece out of only parallel motion between the flute and clarinet. It is fun to hear though! Thanks for sharing. Thanks for the feedback! I was going for a parallel feel to the parts, so that was fully intentional. I made a few updates to include more breaks within the music and added in some more tempo and dynamic changes as well. I pretty much just improvised this on a midi controller, so it was originally just a piano line. I just got the VSL Special edition and have been playing around with it. The woodwinds do sound great. I added the score. Edited December 10, 2021 by BipolarComposer 1 Quote
MJFOBOE Posted December 10, 2021 Posted December 10, 2021 I must agree with the above observations. The initial opening bars are really quite lovely and show great promise; however, then the music becomes somewhat static in its development. I would try to build on the opening measures and create some interesting variations within the premise you present. Quote
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted December 11, 2021 Posted December 11, 2021 Wow! Nice job giving the performers more room to breathe and starting and stopping the phrases in logical places in this new version! What I did notice however, when listening with the score, is that the Bb Clarinet is sometimes required to play a written Eb below the staff in treble clef and as far as I know an E natural is the lowest note possible on the Bb Sopranino Clarinet. Quote
BipolarComposer Posted December 11, 2021 Author Posted December 11, 2021 8 hours ago, MJFOBOE said: I must agree with the above observations. The initial opening bars are really quite lovely and show great promise; however, then the music becomes somewhat static in its development. I would try to build on the opening measures and create some interesting variations within the premise you present. Thanks… it was very improv in nature, without intention for development, but I can see your point about it being static. I was thinking about creating a suite for winds around this, so I might play around with it some more. Quote
BipolarComposer Posted December 11, 2021 Author Posted December 11, 2021 1 hour ago, PeterthePapercomPoser said: Wow! Nice job giving the performers more room to breathe and starting and stopping the phrases in logical places in this new version! What I did notice however, when listening with the score, is that the Bb Clarinet is sometimes required to play a written Eb below the staff in treble clef and as far as I know an E natural is the lowest note possible on the Bb Sopranino Clarinet. Thanks… some Bb Clarinets can go to Db… Prokofiev wrote notes below the flutes actual range, in Peter and the Wolf, so I can get away with a theoretically possible note. Quote
PeterthePapercomPoser Posted December 11, 2021 Posted December 11, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, BipolarComposer said: Thanks… some Bb Clarinets can go to Db… Prokofiev wrote notes below the flutes actual range, in Peter and the Wolf, so I can get away with a theoretically possible note. I think Prokofiev scores are all concert pitch scores so you might have been looking at an Alto Flute in G part which can go below B below middle C (which is the lowest note for a regular non-transposing flute). Also - I've only ever heard of Alto and Bass Clarinets being able to play below a written E natural below middle C. Regular Bb Sopranino Clarinets just cannot play that Eb you have written in bar 68 neither the Bb in the flute part. 😕 EDIT: But an A Clarinet can reach concert Db as it's lowest note which you might consider using in this instance to get to that note. Edited December 11, 2021 by PeterthePapercomPoser Quote
BipolarComposer Posted December 11, 2021 Author Posted December 11, 2021 9 hours ago, PeterthePapercomPoser said: I think Prokofiev scores are all concert pitch scores so you might have been looking at an Alto Flute in G part which can go below B below middle C (which is the lowest note for a regular non-transposing flute). Also - I've only ever heard of Alto and Bass Clarinets being able to play below a written E natural below middle C. Regular Bb Sopranino Clarinets just cannot play that Eb you have written in bar 68 neither the Bb in the flute part. 😕 EDIT: But an A Clarinet can reach concert Db as it's lowest note which you might consider using in this instance to get to that note. Ok... I fixed that! Quote
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