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Just started working on this piece for the last week or so.

Have very little experience writing for strings: so I wanted to experiment with different articulations and textures.

I'm not sure it's worked that well; but interested to know what you all think.

It starts with a synth improvisation; then transitions into a more orchestral style piece, and back to synth textures at the end.

Not very happy with the ending, and probably need to mix out the strings more gradually.

Haven't thought of a title yet: so would be interested to hear what type of imagery or storylines it evokes?

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On 5/30/2022 at 9:07 PM, Alex Weidmann said:

Have very little experience writing for strings: so I wanted to experiment with different articulations and textures.

Let's start with the basics of the string section — and please forgive me if you already know all of this. The modern orchestra divides the strings into 5 sections, arranged from highest to lowest, as follows: 1st violins, 2nd violins, violas, cellos, basses. There aren't really any hard and fast rules to govern which section plays what other than what physics dictates... the limitations of the instruments themselves. In general, the 1st violins carry the melody (think sopranos in a choir) and the others provide some sort of harmony or counterpoint. This is a very loose rule of thumb, though, and a quick glance at any given score will prove that the other parts often carry the melody, as well. If you listen to orchestral works that features strings — which is nearly all of them — you'll develop an ear for what you can do with the string section. Or, perhaps more accurately, what you can't do. The strings are probably the most versatile of all the orchestral instruments!

Fresh composers typically have the hardest time writing for the viola section, likely for a number of reasons. First, it is difficult to hear the viola section in a piece of music unless it's been given a solo run. So composers may not "hear" the viola part in their head when trying to write. Second, the viola uses the alto clef, one of the only instruments to do so, and it can be very time-consuming to transpose for this clef. It's so tempting to just copy-paste the 2nd violin part or a transposed cello part into the clef and move on. Finally, the viola doesn't get much air time (compare the number of violin and cello concerti, for example, to viola concerti), so it can be somewhat unmotivating to write for the "stepchild" of the string section. Thus, the tendency is to relegate unexciting "filler" chords to the viola section: whole- and half-note harmonies, and the like.

The bass (AKA contrabass or double bass) suffers a similar fate: play the cello line an octave lower.

(By the by, violins use the treble or G clef, violas use the alto or C clef, cellos use the bass or F clef, and double basses use the same clef as cellos except their notes sound an octave lower than written.)

On 5/30/2022 at 9:07 PM, Alex Weidmann said:

I'm not sure it's worked that well; but interested to know what you all think.

You begin your foray into string writing with a bouncing melody played by the lower violins/violas (hard to tell which). This is textured later by soaring passages by the 1st violins a la Pachelbel's Canon in D. Then some half-note ostinati while the celli and basses pizzicato beneath, soon alternating between violas/celli. This is followed by another pizzicato passage at around 4:00, then the lower violins/violas play the melody above.

Personally, I don't have any complaints. My ears aren't bleeding and it kept my attention to the very end! Admittedly it is difficult to evaluate the depth of your string writing without a score (which I understand you won't be able to provide this go-round), but I can say that from what I heard here you seem to be on the right track. I am encouraged that you gave each section counterpoint (for the most part) and not block harmonies. Strings are certainly capable of producing lush chords, don't get me wrong. However, that seems to be all the amateur composer can use the strings for and they forget about the section's extreme versatility. So good job, you!

On 5/30/2022 at 9:07 PM, Alex Weidmann said:

Not very happy with the ending, and probably need to mix out the strings more gradually.

I had no problem with the ending. It is your piece, though, so tweak it until you're satisfied.

On 5/30/2022 at 9:07 PM, Alex Weidmann said:

Haven't thought of a title yet: so would be interested to hear what type of imagery or storylines it evokes?

To me, it evoked the excitement of discovery, of passing through unknown corridors and casting light on some of the world's buried mysteries. But again, that's just me.

All in all, a tasteful piece. You clearly have a knack for motivic development and constructing meaningful harmonies. I look forward to hearing more of your stuff!

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Many thanks for listening, and for your very helpful critique!

Have just noticed there are several places where I go from pizzicato to arco and back again with no rests inbetween.

This happens in the celli and double basses: so I guess in a real orchestra those sections would have to be divisi for at least part of the score? Otherwise I think it would be unplayable?

I didn't realise double bass notes are written an octave higher than they sound: so that's useful to know!

I see now that MuseScore applied this principle automatically when I imported the MIDI data.

Did know about viola parts being written in alto clef, but since the scoring software seems to manage the transposition automatically, it doesn't really present a problem. 

So far I've been composing pieces using the on screen piano keyboard on my iPad, or by writing MIDI data directly into the piano roll. So the transposition to alto clef is handled by the scoring software.

I guess this would also be the case for pieces that use transposing instruments, like the F horn or B flat clarinet?

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11 minutes ago, Alex Weidmann said:

Many thanks for listening, and for your very helpful critique!

Oh, you're very welcome!

12 minutes ago, Alex Weidmann said:

Have just noticed there are several places where I go from pizzicato to arco and back again with no rests inbetween.

This happens in the celli and double basses: so I guess in a real orchestra those sections would have to be divisi for at least part of the score? Otherwise I think it would be unplayable?

Good observation! As a general rule, the answer is "yes." It takes a few seconds for a string player to adjust between the techniques, so a rest or two is usually needed. There is a technique, however, called left-hand pizzicato, in which the same hand that provides the fingering for the notes (the, uh, left hand obviously) also plucks the string very near or on the neck. This leaves the right hand free for bowing. Works best for open string notes. If you're just starting out writing for strings, though, my advice is to avoid this technique.

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19 minutes ago, Alex Weidmann said:

I didn't realise double bass notes are written an octave higher than they sound: so that's useful to know!

I see now that MuseScore applied this principle automatically when I imported the MIDI data.

Yes, that's typically the case these days. Good software is so useful!

20 minutes ago, Alex Weidmann said:

I guess this would also be the case for pieces that use transposing instruments, like the F horn or B flat clarinet?

Correct, although it's not as "bad" since the clef is still a familiar one. I mean, if you compose by playing into the piano roll, you won't have to worry about these pesky transpositions at all, ever. Unless...

Unless you choose to torture yourself and pursue a music degree. Or compose in your head / directly into the notation software.

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