Mike Posted October 7, 2006 Posted October 7, 2006 While the old software did make use of pip "ranks" that increased in tandem with the user's post count, I think we can all agree that it takes more than x number of posts to gain status or high standing. I've already explained why the measure was implemented, and the concept of quality control has also been touched on, but I feel you are reading into this a little too much, montpellier. Sure, the post count isn't a pure and literal post count anymore, but neither is the member number particularly meaningful for some members. Neither is the join date, if you take into account time zone discrepancies. We've just changed something slightly to adapt to the environment; the rest of YC is exactly as it was before. Oh and by the way, the post count is only incremented when an actual new message is submitted, not when an edit is made. Quote
montpellier Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Yes, sorry, this is a business trait with me. Just that if something isn't functional regards formal or informal objectives why do it at all? (A rhetorical question in this case). I have a fairly cynical view of the programming trade, often seeing arbitrary change just to keep the progs busy. cheers. Quote
Saiming Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Hey, I was more specific than that. I said that compared to me you're still a n00b :PAnyways, If the box doesn't count towards your 100 chars, does the same thing apply to the box? Is there a way to inclue a word count tool into the advanced reply menu? Should I just stfu? :D ... Well then I'll just have to be here a bit longer... or there is another possibilty :P ----------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Oh and btw Mike, I just wondered. If you post something less than 100 letters and then you notice that you wrote something wrong or forgot to add something. So you re-write that post and this time more than 100 letters, will the post count rise? Quote
Mike Posted October 8, 2006 Posted October 8, 2006 Yes, sorry, this is a business trait with me. Just that if something isn't functional regards formal or informal objectives why do it at all? (A rhetorical question in this case). I have a fairly cynical view of the programming trade, often seeing arbitrary change just to keep the progs busy.cheers. Well, that's a rather simplistic and cynical view of programming you presented there. I certainly don't go around changing things just to "keep myself busy", for what it's worth. We do have a primary objective, by the way: to stop people spamming in an attempt to raise their post count. I've said that about three times now. Anyway, now that the editing-related "loophole" has been raised, I may look into it. However, it may be that vBulletin's internal structure all but prevents what you are suggesting taking place (based on my present understanding). Quote
Mike Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 The character threshold has now been raised to 350 as per the other Michael's request. Quote
bob stole my cookie Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 Damn.... Does the "only applies to origial posts (as oppoed to edits) still count? Quote
montpellier Posted October 12, 2006 Posted October 12, 2006 That's about 60 average words if spaces are included, 70 if not. That's nigh on 5 lines in the quick reply box. Ok. Quote
giselle Posted October 14, 2006 Posted October 14, 2006 That seems ok...but maybe a bit excessive? I mean, not all of my posts require 350 characters to say what I want to say, but does that mean my post isn't worth adding to my personal statistic? I mean, it's not like I have some need to raise my post count, but I am interested in the number of posts I've made just like I've checked the number of hits to my web sites and their origin - curiosity, etc. I mean, I think one can make a contributing post in under 350 words - people who are looking to simply raise their post count for whatever reason will just be really verbose about saying nothing. I prefer the more in fewer words approach. I'm just confused about why this is necessary. Quote
CaltechViolist Posted October 14, 2006 Posted October 14, 2006 As am I. :evil: Porcaro sometimes seems to be on a mission to make this place as difficult to moderate as possible. Quote
Mike Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 I'm going to turn this whole thing off until the moderating team has come up with a specific strategy regarding the whole quality control matter. Quote
Guest Bitterduck Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 Simple, ban and delete. Old fashion but works. Quote
Mike Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 Simple, ban and delete. Old fashion but works. Ah, when we say "spamming" we mean people posting very short, pointless messages with the primary objective being raising their post count, not people coming among with the sole purpose of advertising something. We thought perhaps introducing this little system would help discourage such behaviour. Instead, it seems to have caused a whole host of other problems/conflicts. Quote
Guest JohnGalt Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 Ah, when we say "spamming" we mean people posting very short, pointless messages with the primary objective being raising their post count, not people coming among with the sole purpose of advertising something. We thought perhaps introducing this little system would help discourage such behaviour. Instead, it seems to have caused a whole host of other problems/conflicts. The only person I can say that's been doing that is Sapphire. No one else, at least that I've seen, has admitted to it, so you can't be sure it's a problem. Quote
montpellier Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 Will it stop "spamming" (which I understood as Sales Promotion Advertising Material)? but I know what you mean. As postcount is functionally irrelevant now, just post what you feel you have to, surely? Quote
Mike Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 As postcount is functionally irrelevant now, just post what you feel you have to, surely? I suppose so, though there should have been no reason why you felt you were prevented from doing this before, even with the system in place. ;) Quote
montpellier Posted October 15, 2006 Posted October 15, 2006 I don't think I was....was I? I did a few postettes. [(Edit) - I've posted too far much already, mostly music - about 50% are reviews, comments, another few percent tutorial but 850 posts in 6 months??? I'd be obliged if you switch my post count off altogether. Thanks.] Quote
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