Symphony in E: III. Scherzo

Today I present here the third movement of my Symphony in E, just finished some days ago.
Unlike the other two movements, which were composed 5 years ago and heavily and constantly revised until I posted them here, this one is actually a composition that has been done in the last 1-2 weeks and I think it's summarizes really well what I actually can do with a blank paper.
It's almost 9 minutes long in a standart form (scherzo-trio-scherzo). The scherzo is more like the opposition beetwen two themes than appear many times with different modifications and character changes, and the trio is a calm section (almost in a Ländler way) being a way of getting away from turbulences in the scherzo.
Actually my first motivation or starting idea was from Dvorak furiants and scherzi but ended up being something really different (but there's some evidences of this in some parts in the grouping of the bars or the accents that desestabilize the 3/4 bar. Also there's a lot of Mahler and Bruckner influence (especially in the very last bars).
Hope you enjoy it!

(other thing that I wanted to comment is that I uploaded the second movement in the wrong topic last time so I leave the link here so you can listen to it if you want: *Link*)

This movement is rather pastorale and sweet rather than driving and intense.  But maybe not all scherzi have to be that way.  It's also more triumphant rather than exhilarating.  It does have the hallmarks of being in 3 like a minuet and contains many surprising and sudden changes in dynamics which scherzi are expected to.  But it is on the whole, rather subdued for a scherzo.  The trio especially is very relaxing and tame and brings to mind a beautiful country landscape.  It is however, a fitting addition to this Mahler-esque symphony of yours.  Overall, great job and thanks for sharing!

@PeterthePapercomPoser Actually, I was kind of in doubt about calling it scherzo but, as you said, I understand scherzo not only as those kind of explosive and stressful. This is more in the way of Mahler 5 scherzo or Dvorak 7.  Thank you for your comment!

I listened to the whole thing with my eyes closed. This composition could and did travel me to places where I was able to feel peace and tranquility! Nice changes and variations and the main thing is that you have composed melodies that meet all the specifications to become timeless! Congratulations!

Hey @Nazariy,

The opening is so cheating! I don't read the score at first and I'm thinking of the returning to tonic but actually it's the dominant of A minor! When A minor appears I'm thinking "WTF?" and this for sure reminds me of the third movement of Brahms' First String Quartet when he disguised the real key there. Great disguise here!

On 6/18/2023 at 9:32 PM, Nazariy said:

Also there's a lot of Mahler and Bruckner influence (especially in the very last bars).

I see influence from Mahler's Landler, and his sacarsm. The trio in b.289 does remind me the opening of Mahler's 9th, only quicker here. The ending not only reminds me of Mahler, but with that descending chromatic line in horn in b.509 reminds me the opening movement of Tchaikovsky's 4th. 

I think the key change in b.114 unnecessary for so short a time.

Overall the movement is beautiful! Maybe not as dramatic and exciting as a Scherzo will be, but anyway it's very enjoyable. Thx for sharing!

Henry

Thank you for your comments!

I'm quite surprised with myself because of these "pastorale-like" work that are coming out. I understand this work parting from something not as intense (as for example Mahler 6th scherzo) but kind of in a waltzing way maybe with some peak points going crazier (especially at the end). Actually after some time I see similarities with the 5th of the Dances that I uploaded a time ago (and another work that I yet didn't submitted here). 

On 7/3/2023 at 3:00 AM, Henry Ng Tsz Kiu said:

The opening is so cheating!

come on! you really were expecting me to be that obvious? For me, this kind of openings are just what I ended up doing. Too obvious to be true, and of course it is not true.

On 7/3/2023 at 3:00 AM, Henry Ng Tsz Kiu said:

reminds me the opening movement of Tchaikovsky's 4th

This is especially fascinating for me. I like when I can recognise some influences but people can say something more that I didn't see and of course it might be true.

On 7/3/2023 at 3:00 AM, Henry Ng Tsz Kiu said:

I think the key change in b.114 unnecessary for so short a time.

This is a thing that I used for practical reasons at the moment of composition but ended up staying because it feels odd to me now without it.