Guardian25 Posted July 24, 2023 Posted July 24, 2023 Here a 12 tone idea that came up with. 12 tone music isn't something that I really study or write much of, but I made this idea for fun. I might extend this idea further or maybe write other short 12 tone pieces (Vignettes) as a sort of 12 tone collection for string quartet. Any feedback on this is welcomed! I tried to realize this on musescore, but some of the dynamics did not come out the way I wanted to, so it's not as balanced as I would like. MP3 Play / pause JavaScript is required. 0:00 0:00 volume > next menu Vignette No. 1 For String Quartet > next PDF Vignette No. 1 For String Quartet 1 Quote
Henry Ng Tsz Kiu Posted July 24, 2023 Posted July 24, 2023 Hi @Guardian25, This is quite interesting result of the 12 tone idea. 12 tone idea is never a thing I would like to try but the effect here is funny, particularly with those pizzicatos. For the pizz. I think they may take shorter note values, in those in b.6, 8,13 & 10. Also you can remove the redundant pizz. marking in b.7. Thx for sharing! Henry 1 Quote
Luis Hernández Posted July 24, 2023 Posted July 24, 2023 Congratulations, it sounds great. But, strictly speaking, there are many elements reminiscent of tonal structures. Although the moments where important chords are concentrated, these are well chosen not to be "consonant" (although the octaved E at the end would not have been forgiven by Schönberg, haha), the overall texture of accompanied melody is not very typical of dodecaphonism. Nor is repeating patterns typical of this style. Anyway, all this doesn't matter. Schönberg and colleagues designed this system and we can use it as we want. In fact, at that time each one did with the system what he thought was good for him. 1 Quote
Henry Ng Tsz Kiu Posted July 24, 2023 Posted July 24, 2023 3 minutes ago, Luis Hernández said: (although the octaved E at the end would not have been forgiven by Schönberg, haha) Who cares how Schönberg feel when he doesn't care how we feel towards his music haha! 1 Quote
Luis Hernández Posted July 24, 2023 Posted July 24, 2023 15 minutes ago, Henry Ng Tsz Kiu said: Who cares how Schönberg feel when he doesn't care how we feel towards his music haha! That is the point. Dozens of musical systems and languages were created in the 20th century, but you can use them however you want. Of course, if you want to sound like the Schönberg school, you will have to apply all its principles. But if what you want is to use the dodecaphonic system to express yourself however you want, then welcome. For me, that's the way it is with all styles. 1 Quote
Guardian25 Posted July 25, 2023 Author Posted July 25, 2023 15 hours ago, Luis Hernández said: That is the point. Dozens of musical systems and languages were created in the 20th century, but you can use them however you want. Of course, if you want to sound like the Schönberg school, you will have to apply all its principles. But if what you want is to use the dodecaphonic system to express yourself however you want, then welcome. For me, that's the way it is with all styles. Im finding it interesting how his system can be used in ways that differed a bit from how he originally intended. I will have to eventually look into the other languages that were developed during this. I especially like the film score from this era, but im sure film score composers based their ideas on different musical languages of the time. Quote
Luis Hernández Posted July 25, 2023 Posted July 25, 2023 11 hours ago, Guardian25 said: Im finding it interesting how his system can be used in ways that differed a bit from how he originally intended. I will have to eventually look into the other languages that were developed during this. I especially like the film score from this era, but im sure film score composers based their ideas on different musical languages of the time. Bartok's axis system is a good place to start exploring. 1 Quote
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