Caprice for Solo Violin No. 4

This is my "Caprice for Solo Violin No. 4".

Here are the links to my three previous Caprices for solo violin:

https://www.youngcomposers.com/t44427/caprice-for-solo-violin-no-1/

https://www.youngcomposers.com/t44439/caprice-for-solo-violin-no-2/

https://www.youngcomposers.com/t44505/caprice-for-solo-violin-no-3/

EDIT on 31/7/23, 1:00PM GMT:

I posted an edited version of the score and mp3 in response to feedback. The edits concern the arpeggios of bars 10 & 11 which I replaced with the same notes laid out successively instead of as arpeggios and bars 14 & 15 where I replaced the  4-line tremolos with 3-line tremolos. I hope and believe that this revised version is playable on the violin.

 Tēnā Koe Luderart,

Ok, I'm going to be very blunt. This is not convincing at all. I got about a minute into the piece and stopped listening. The violin writing is shabby and shows a clear lack of understanding of how to write for the violin. I'll try and help you fix this.

First of all, you cannot arpegiate chords on a violin the way you do in Bar 10. It's impossible, we dont have the mechanics to do that. That entire two bar section is unplayable on a violin and should be removed. 

Secondly, the four bar tremolos should be there, they cannot be played. If your going to do tremolo on a violin, do three line tremolos, as that is the fastest or bows can go at most speeds.

Finally, I'm going to comment on the music itself. Where's the double bar line at the end.

Please fix this. I know I was blunt but it was need to be said.

Nga Mihi,

Arjuna

3 hours ago, expert21 said:

 Tēnā Koe Luderart,

 

Ok, I'm going to be very blunt. This is not convincing at all. I got about a minute into the piece and stopped listening. The violin writing is shabby and shows a clear lack of understanding of how to write for the violin. I'll try and help you fix this.

First of all, you cannot arpegiate chords on a violin the way you do in Bar 10. It's impossible, we dont have the mechanics to do that. That entire two bar section is unplayable on a violin and should be removed. 

Secondly, the four bar tremolos should be there, they cannot be played. If your going to do tremolo on a violin, do three line tremolos, as that is the fastest or bows can go at most speeds.

Finally, I'm going to comment on the music itself. Where's the double bar line at the end.

 

Please fix this. I know I was blunt but it was need to be said.

Nga Mihi,

Arjuna

 

 

Hello Expert21,

Thanks for your review of my piece. I wonder with what authority you can say that the arpeggios and the tromolos I have written are impossible on the violin? I asked a violinist about the kind of arpeggios I have written here and she confirmed that they are possible. Perhaps you can elaborate why they are impossible? Or perhaps your violin knowledge is not at the required level to able to play such passages? Regarding the tremolos, I will revise the piece to change them to three-line tremolos. I will also add the final bar line. I had missed it.

Hi,

My authority is ten years of experience playing in multiple orchestras, musical ensembles and doing socre studies of many famous violin concertos. Those arpeggios are not playable on a violin, i've not encountered them in any violin music or any string music for that matter. Why? Because their not physically playable. We can't pull stuff like that of using a bow. Its like trying to arpeggiate on a piano with a hammer instead of a hand. 

Also the most tremolo on a violin that is usually done is three strokes above the note, never four. We can't play that fast.

thanks, 

Expert21

3 hours ago, expert21 said:

Hi,

My authority is ten years of experience playing in multiple orchestras, musical ensembles and doing socre studies of many famous violin concertos. Those arpeggios are not playable on a violin, i've not encountered them in any violin music or any string music for that matter. Why? Because their not physically playable. We can't pull stuff like that of using a bow. Its like trying to arpeggiate on a piano with a hammer instead of a hand. 

Also the most tremolo on a violin that is usually done is three strokes above the note, never four. We can't play that fast.

 

thanks, 

Expert21

 

 

Thanks for describing the source of your authority. I made the revisions as I have explained in the opening post. Please check the new score and mp3.