Mike Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 In order for this new lessons idea to work, there must be not only "students", but "teachers" too. Please post here if you'd be interested in acting as a teacher for one or more students. Should you make it through the screening process (the staff will decide who is suitable), you can do as much or as little as suits you. Also post if you'd like to be a student. Who is interested? P.S. Perhaps I should mention that the actual tuition is likely to occur via PM, or possibly in a thread in this forum. Or maybe in some separate designated system that I haven't yet coded...
Daniel Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 I also wouldn't mind, but of course, I'm not that qualified.
PaulP Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 In order for this new lessons idea to work, there must be not only "students", but "teachers" too.Please post here if you'd be interested in acting as a teacher for one or more students. Should you make it through the screening process (the staff will decide who is suitable), you can do as much or as little as suits you. Also post if you'd like to be a student. Who is interested? P.S. Perhaps I should mention that the actual tuition is likely to occur via PM, or possibly in a thread in this forum. Or maybe in some separate designated system that I haven't yet coded... I don't think anyone should have to be screened by staff if one person likes another's music and wishes to be taught by them. I'm not really sure I see the purpose of the subforum anyway - since people with questions or wanting tuition or advice can seek it in the forums that are already available or through pm. Let the students pick their teachers based on whether they like the teacher's music or not. Having "staff" decide who is "suitable" or not is really not neccessary and implies more things than should be implied about the staff, teachers and students.
Mike Posted March 5, 2007 Author Posted March 5, 2007 The purpose of arranging lessons is to facilitate a focused, extensive, one-to-one discussion between student and teacher. Such an interaction can be very conducive to good learning. Ideally, some kind of relationship will be built up, too, which can only make the exercise more worthwhile. As for staff screening, we merely want to ensure that "teachers" aren't so elementary themselves that they would instruct their "students" outright wrongly, or just be next to useless. We have no plans of being snobbish with this - we can't afford to be, on account of the finite resources before us. And of course, if one takes, say, Qccowboy as being representative of the mean teaching standard we are aiming for (which he isn't, as I'll explain in a sec), it excludes pretty much everyone else on the forum. We don't all possess master's degrees, after all. :P Having "staff" decide who is "suitable" or not is really not neccessary and implies more things than should be implied about the staff, teachers and students. Care to name them?
Guest CreationArtist Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 I'm not exactly sure how this is going to work, but I'll volunteer as a student. Wait, did you say tuition?
PaulP Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 The purpose of arranging lessons is to facilitate a focused, extensive, one-to-one discussion between student and teacher. Such an interaction can be very conducive to good learning. You mean as opposed to having multiple people make comments or suggestions on a piece of music. I suppose it makes sense if the subject is not simply a review, where the opinion of the larger community is sought, but on a specific aspect of the music. As for staff screening, we merely want to ensure that "teachers" aren't so elementary themselves that they would instruct their "students" outright wrongly, or just be next to useless. Ok, that makes sense. But what is the basis for making that determination? Wouldn't it depend on the goal of the student? For example - a friend of mine has alot of talent in solo improvisation on the guitar in a blues medium. But he struggles with some basic music theory(for instance, notation). His talent far exceeds many musicians who know the theory he struggles with. If someone wants to be taught by him (they want his talent) - what would the better choice be? The knowledgable teacher who can't do what my friend does, or him? The screening process may not match the students needs/wants with the teacher they are landed with. We have no plans of being snobbish with this - we can't afford to be, on account of the finite resources before us. And of course, if one takes, say, Qccowboy as being representative of the mean teaching standard we are aiming for (which he isn't, as I'll explain in a sec), it excludes pretty much everyone else on the forum. We don't all possess master's degrees, after all. :P I think this comes close to what I'm talking about. I've heard music on this site and in general by people with far less formal education than others which I personally like better. Academia carries a fair distance - but it doesn't mean it matches the particular goals of the student in whatever area that he seeks to improve in. Care to name them? I think your explanation and mine have answered that.
Mike Posted March 5, 2007 Author Posted March 5, 2007 We aren't going to focus obsessively on academia. The ones here who have talent but only mediocre/little theoretical knowledge will have their strengths acknowledged - their talent. I didn't actually verbalise this, but we would actually try to aim to match people up based on interests or objectives.
Morivou Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 Ok... tuition... hmmm, well that counts me out. I have absolutely no money available to me. Why tuition, Mike?
Mike Posted March 5, 2007 Author Posted March 5, 2007 Yes, having utilised a dictionary I can see how the ambiguity might have crept in. :thumbsup:
Majesty Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 I'm interested in acting as teacher :thumbsup: Although, I fear that at times I may get too busy to be any use.
Morivou Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 OH, I see... Tuition as in the actual TEACHING will commence in this thread or by PM... Makes more sense! Thanks... it is late, very late... In addition, I would love to be a student!
Ravels Radical Rivalry Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 I have been dying to learn the basics of composition theory, orchestration, and counterpoint. I think I would like to learn from Qccowboy. However, whoever fits best is who I would like to learn from. Maybe we could devise some kind of YC curriculum that is the basics for teaching here. I know you said that you would not stress on the academics, but that is exactly the opposite of the way I would like it. I love the strictly academic. I don't care how dull or trite it would seem to someone else. That kind of academia about music is exactly what gets me so excited about all of composing and stuff. I would love to learn the technical and learn how to apply it to all the areas of music that I am involved in.
Guest CreationArtist Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 Who would have ever thought of paying a volunteer teacher :thumbsup:
montpellier Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 Who would have ever thought of paying a volunteer teacher :thumbsup: Who would have ever thought of not paying a teacher? Crikey, my fees are
retron Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 While I'd love to teach someone else, I don't think I have enough know how at this point, so I'd love to be a student. If you'd like to teacher screen my and do find that I have some merit in that department, then I'll do that as well.
fourthage Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 Heya is it possible to be both? I'd love to teach more film music/orchestraton orientated stuff but be taught on subjects like writing for chamber ensemble or solo instrument and art music forms and techniques.
montpellier Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 Ok...have you scored for films, worked with the editors etc? I'd like to learn more about film writing because my experience is limited to small indie outfits and little films about stately gardens and things. I don't want to go down the American route though, where you start as an orchestrator, then move onto composing and cease to orchestrate. Presumably you eventually get promoted to Deputy Assistant Senior composer etc etc :thumbsup:
fourthage Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 I was referring to style as opposed to buisness and career, I suggest you read the Complete Guide to Film Scoring for more buisness related issues as I, myself have only composed for short films and student run T.V. stations.
Mark Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 I'd be interested in being a student, I'm interested in composing for anything involving a guitar, solo, chamber and orchestral. The one thing I'm most lacking in is development.
Marius Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 Short films and game audio are fun topics. And then there's all the wonders of digital music creation and all that fun techy stuff. Do my qualifications count as enough to teach, by the way?
bob_the_sane Posted March 5, 2007 Posted March 5, 2007 I would love to be a student, especially in harmony. It is something I definitely don't know enough about.
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