Ravels Radical Rivalry Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 Why dont we set up a public teaching forum?Cover topics people want to bring up and vote for the. I think this would be way better that way the knowledge is spread throught YC for people to learn not based on person to person if somone has questions they can PM. I mean come on we all want to be taught what Qccowboy knows right? Everyone here would benifite from learning things. That way people can compare and contrast knowledge to fit their composing needs. This is my take on it. I think having large forums on it would be way better. Spread the icing all over the cake dont just plop it in the middle and hope it moves itself. I agree that something like that would be good for spreading all of the different various ways of teaching different topics to the most people possible. However, I find that on a one-to-one basis the most improvement and the best understanding is found. I know that I would jump leaps and bounds if I had someone who actually related to me specifically. It works well with me if I have someone educated that knows exactly where I am and can gauge what will work best for me. Plus, if I could actually be led through one of my own compositions and be shown certain things using my piece as the example I think I would be great in no time. Still, the basis for the idea is a good one. I think that maybe some of people's private sessions could go public if the teacher and student agree and some kind of moderator feels that there is benefical information in that session. Or maybe just the teachers teaching could go public. Maybe in an archive. Just throwing out ideas.
bob_the_sane Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 Yeah, I agree with RRR, I thinking teaching and learning would be much more effective on a one to one basis.
Ceresz Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 I would love to be a student of Daniel or someone else :laugh: I don't really care, I just want to learn ;)
PaulP Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 I taught piano for a while - and I know what work it is to teach - to do it properly takes time and dedication, preperation of lessons, focus on student's wants balanced by what the teacher thinks they need, among other things. The student deserves no less. As such, I couldn't do more than I do occasionally on the board as time permits. For the same reason I wouldn't be a good student... and I know there are areas of orchestration and mixing I could use help with. In this - I think people are going to get what they pay for, or as the case may be, what they don't pay for. There may be exceptions, but I suspect that in the majority of cases that will be the rule. Nearly everything that people want to learn can be found in various books and on the net for free. The only thing that isn't regularly provided is feedback/encouragement, which is already what "writer's block" and "advice and techniques" is about. I admire the give and take spirit of this venture - but in honesty I think that a dedicated teacher will be hard to find if they are as serious about helping regularly as someone who makes a living at doing just that.
Guest QcCowboy Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 I don't think the goal here is to set up any sort of "permanent" relationship of teacher/student, but rather to establish a series of "sessions" between two people. The idea of placing it within the forum context was so that not only the 2 people involved within the particular lesson plan, but everyone else as well, could profit from the experience. Sort of like a masterclass. Obviously, I'd be willing to give some time as a teacher here. However, I won't be teaching basic harmony, basic musical knowledge, or counterpoint. My own involvement is more geared towards compositional technique, ie: craft. The application of what I've previously written in my mini-guides and in some of my lengthier reviews.
Daniel Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 I'd be very interested in being a student, and working through a "demonstration" piece, with help from the teacher - in relation to more modern styles. It's totally new for me. And yea, I don't think there will be any permanent relationships - it wouldn't work out, and it's probably best to learn from different people, to give yourself a wide range of experience.
Mark Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 I'll help as best I can, following subjects (which I suspect have few qualified 'instructors'): various modes of trombonery (technique, jazz performance) jazz theory jazz styles (history/artists) I'd be enormously interested in that, especially if it involves improvisation.
KSP Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 I don't think the goal here is to set up any sort of "permanent" relationship of teacher/student, but rather to establish a series of "sessions" between two people.The idea of placing it within the forum context was so that not only the 2 people involved within the particular lesson plan, but everyone else as well, could profit from the experience. Sort of like a masterclass. Obviously, I'd be willing to give some time as a teacher here. However, I won't be teaching basic harmony, basic musical knowledge, or counterpoint. My own involvement is more geared towards compositional technique, ie: craft. The application of what I've previously written in my mini-guides and in some of my lengthier reviews. Continuing among that vien, what about a "master class" like setting with team assignments. Students of a teacher can pair up and critique each other's works in depth before the session with the teacher. This way the teacher can concentrate of advancing the composition skills of the class. The format would be similar to a competition with critiques and reviews, except for it will have lessons to guide the class along with teacher reviews. I remember taking a similar type of lesson in a small group of eight. This type of setup would not require much teacher hours. However, it would require active engagement by the students to review each others' works based upon the lesson plan.
robinjessome Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 I wouldn't mind a jazz class. ...what about a "master class" like setting with team assignments. Perhaps this is the direction we should go, less a one-on-one lesson (which would be horrendously difficult over the interweb), but more of a masterclass, group-type setting: Teacher presents some material on an assigned topic, students ask related questions...more of a group discussion. This would work well, I think, especially for history/styles based lessons. ?! I dunno.
TheMeaningofLIfe Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 I'm totally for it in any way. Lets just get goin, I look forward to not paying for more theory books. =):)
montpellier Posted March 7, 2007 Posted March 7, 2007 You don't have to pay a cent for theory books. Try this. Dolmetsch Online - Music Theory Online Index
AndrevHaren Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 I studied classical piano (so teacher on paper) and composition for about 7 years. i wrote music (classical/orchestral style) since I started with music, must be 1985 or so. I love to talk about music composition, structure, orchestration etc. If i can be helpfull here, I volunteer! I especially like to teach music (did this by the way for real...) because it makes me more conscious about how music works. That is the great thing about talking about things.
Guest Nickthoven Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 I would like to be a teacher, focus in modern music, originality, non-functional harmony/atonal, etc., with a side focus in film and game scoring. And I use both Sibelius and Finale. I'm glad this got off the ground. ;)
Sawdust Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 with a side focus in film and game scoring Dude.. can I like, yell "shotgun" for you or something?, I'd love me some of those kind of lessons, too bad I don't really know the basics enough to stray from them.
J. Lee Graham Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 I would love to learn from Daniel or Lee =] I'm considering volunteering, but since I don't do much educating (aside from my fugue crash-course), I'd like to see how others put this together first. It's at times like this I would especially miss my lack of a formal education.
Daniel Posted March 8, 2007 Posted March 8, 2007 It's at times like this I would especially miss my lack of a formal education. This is exactly when you don't need that! It's about passing on what you have learnt for yourself - and your music is testament to your knowledge, so "formal" is clearly not a requirement. @MeaningofLife, we're hoping to get it up and off the ground soon - just some things to be decided upon first.
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