The Top 5 composers

Any opinions on my post or my list or is this argument still festering away?

Any opinions on my post or my list or is this argument still festering away?

festering

Ok, that's a shame, I was trying to swrve the discussion to pastures new....come join me when you all get a chance :)

... aaaand Prokofiev's Sonata no.3 is one of my favorites. :)

edit: Whoops, this appears to have come out of nowhere, but I meant it in response to QC's lil' list.

I will follow QC (who has a name, btw... I know it :) Pay me and I will spill the beans :D) on the prokofiev list a tad:

Prokofiev Sonata Nr.8 It made such an impact on me. A first movement, which is bizzare not exacly a sonata form, but perfect Perfect counterpoint, perfect harmonic language. Just perfect...

Symphony Nr. 5 Lovely symphony with some mechanical parts inthere as well :cool:

That for now...

I will follow QC (who has a name, btw... I know it :cool: Pay me and I will spill the beans :D) on the prokofiev list a tad:

Prokofiev Sonata Nr.8 It made such an impact on me. A first movement, which is bizzare not exacly a sonata form, but perfect Perfect counterpoint, perfect harmonic language. Just perfect...

Symphony Nr. 5 Lovely symphony with some mechanical parts inthere as well :D

That for now...

spill the beans and you shall suffer the wrath of the QC!!!!!!!

how much to keep it quiet, eh?

:)

for some reason, I'm less attracted to Proko's symphonies.

same goes for his operas (except 3 oranges).

ooo, ooo, ooo, I forgot a FUN one!!!

the Sinfonia Concertante for Cello and orchestra... the ending is absolutely orgasmic!!!

I believe I also know your name.

I could be wrong though.

1 Toru Takemitsu

2 Toru Takemitsu

3 Toru Takemitsu

4 P.D.Q Bach

5 Toru Takemitsu

You freak'n jerks.

?=)

Why don't you tell me your name?

What is the BIG DEAL ? lol

I can guess from your photo in your avatar that your name can be either

Adam Goldberg

or

John Mcquerkl:w00t: y though the latter would be far fetched...:D

:D If your aint gonna give me a name I'm gonna improvise one for you.

How about Mr. Knowitall?

....:D :D i love these things...:D

Why don't you tell me your name?

What is the BIG DEAL ? lol

I can guess from your photo in your avatar that your name can be either

Adam Goldberg

or

John Mcquerkl:w00t: y though the latter would be far fetched...

:D If your aint gonna give me a name I'm gonna improvise one for you.

How about Mr. Knowitall?

....:D i love these things...

there's no reason to become offensive.

I see no reason to give you my name, it changes nothing to this conversation nor to any other eventual conversations.

I will politely ask you to drop the subject now.

Schubert supersedes all other composer. Including Mendelssohn.

there's no reason to become offensive.

I see no reason to give you my name, it changes nothing to this conversation nor to any other eventual conversations.

I will politely ask you to drop the subject now.

Aight... :D

Hey dirtball... watch your mouth.

Ditto. Maybe you could start learning your opinion isn't fact.

Ditto. Maybe you could start learning your opinion isn't fact.

Is this your opinion? :D

he suggested that the scale-twister Russian named Prokofiev is even greater.

Nice to know that you admit ignorance to Prokofiev's works.

Now.... I have read 5 different biographies on Mendelssohn, including the latest one by Professor Larry Todd, a respected Mendelssohn scholar and musicologist. The book is a long one about 800 pages. I also read many articles about the composer. I have also listened to the majority of Mendelssohn's works. I can guarantee that Felix is easily a much much Much greater composer then Prokofiev. I'm so sure of it that when I put Mendelssohn's and Prokofiev's music one next to the other, the latter one is a Joke compared to Mendy.

Actually, you know nothing. You can only believe. Merely reading a biography is a pathetic sidestepping of rationalization, and supports my claim that you know very little about music in general, especially of the people you denounce.

This could be turned into an intelligent debate rather then immature name calling.

The only way that would happen would be if you were to promptly leave.

This I cant and will never accept.

*cough* bigotry *cough*

Well, since "top 5 composers" is, in my opinion, a stupid goal for a discussion, I'd rather name some works I admire greatly:

Prokoviev, piano concerto no.2 (arguably the most difficult music ever written for the piano)

Prokoviev, Alexandre Nevski, cantata (one of the great vocal works of the repertoire)

Prokoviev, piano sonata no.7, last movement (one of my all time favourite piano pieces)

Prokoviev, Alla and Lolly / Scythian Suite (ballet music, one of the most brilliantly orchestrated orchestral "tour de forces")

Prokoviev, Suggestion Diabolique (another that's just so darned fun to play)

Prokoviev, The Love for Three Oranges (just a whole lot of fun! it's hysterically funny and full of wonderful tunes and beautiful choruses)

Oh, how I do love these pieces. I would add the October Cantata, which I will upload here in a bit, since I just got a rare recording of it. It's absolutely fantastic.

... aaaand Prokofiev's Sonata no.3 is one of my favorites. :D

It's a new passion of mine as well, and I'm writing a piano sonata in the same style for a class.

Ditto. Maybe you could start learning your opinion isn't fact.

An important lesson for anyone. Subjectivity is not objectivity. Learn the difference and keep them separate.

:D ...this thread

And you supposed to know everything in music, John?

Can you answer this, Mr Genius..

Where music came from?

Simple answer, please.

And you supposed to know everything in music, John?

Can you answer this, Mr Genius..

Nope, and I never claimed I did. You, however, must either take this claim or submit to a fatal double-standard.

Where music came from?

Simple answer, please.

Simple. Evolution.

(It came to my attention from your posts on other forums that you are, rather unfortunately, entirely uneducated on the matter of evolution. You may take the matter up in this thread, as it pertains directly to the topic.)

Why do the top 5 composers have to be classical?

I'd say Watanabe, Hamauzu and Sakimoto.

And then maybe Prokofiev and Mendelssohn. :D

On other sites I think Saul was banned already, but you guys really have high tolerance.

Why do the top 5 composers have to be classical?

I'd say Watanabe, Hamauzu and Sakimoto.

And then maybe Prokofiev and Mendelssohn. :D

Never heard of Watanabe, Hamazu, or Sakimoto. Could you link some pieces?

By the way, I found something interesting on Google. Here's a quote from another forum:

"Beethoven, Schumann or Wagner among 19th century masters"

Youre Kiddin rite?

Put Schumann,Beethoven and wagner together as one ,still they dont even come to Felix's little Toe.

Mendelssohn's Music and Genius is so much greater then these 'Masters' that its laughable to even say otherwise.

Regards,

Saul

The Classical Music Guide Forums :: View topic - Felix Mendelssohn Fans

Seems he just can't help but incite criticism.

Aaah, now here we go! I'll cut them short to be legal.

Although: the law says I can put them on the internet for educational reasons and the author can't decline this.

If I may give my personal opinion I gleaned from Galt's sources...

Saulsmusic has some Jewish heritage...

Felix Mendelssohn was/is/up for debate a Jew...

I'm making a clean line between this and anti-Semitism... I do not hate, in any way, shape, or form, Jews.

It seems Saulsmusic considers only a composer of his own religion to be the greatest, and all others to be inferior BECAUSE they were not of said religion. If I may say something, this seems a little biased, especially coming from a person who's religion maintains that religion should not be the judge of a person or their art.

He also seems to hate Wagner for obvious reasons... I personally hate Wagner as a person for those reasons, but that is not to say he was a bad composer...

If you infer as I've infered from this, Saulsmusic, you are merely increasing the number of people who are biased against you and possibly your religion as a whole. From a religion and culture that is as strong and as lasting as the Jewish one, I hope that you've learned that equal respect for others, regardless of religion, is one of the most important things in life, and in understanding others. No doubt many from said religion have learned, but you, Saulsmusic, individually you have not learned respect for other people and cultures, and because of this, you are ruining your musical aptitude, your social skills, and helping to contribute to racial and ethnic tensions that are still alive in this world...

Most importantly, you are not going to go that far in music if you become one-composer-sided, and consider all else to be far inferior. Ignorance is bliss up to a point, at which it becomes deleterious.

This is just my kind of music, my opinion of the greatest composer. Just an opinion.

Here they are:

They have much richer music, but here are some songs of them. Hamauzu and Sakimoto are more orchestral and chamber music. Watanabe is much more electronical, but he has some very nice modulation skills and melodic development.

Pay attention to the adorable septime chords, used abundantly in VGM and jazz.

Sakimoto: Second greatest composer who is still alive: My favourite song, look how rich the orchestration is: XTHost.info download page

Hamauzu: "The" greatest composer and he's still alive: Random song not his best though: XTHost.info download page

More info and more songs here: http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/masashi-hamauzu-7193-2.html

Watanabe: Quite interesting in chord progression, maybe not the greatest composer, but certainly creative and still alive. Master in catchy melodies: XTHost.info download page

This is just my kind of music, my opinion of the greatest composer. Just an opinion.

Here they are:

They have much richer music, but here are some songs of them. Hamauzu and Sakimoto are more orchestral and chamber music. Watanabe is much more electronical, but he has some very nice modulation skills and melodic development.

Pay attention to the adorable septime chords, used abundantly in VGM and jazz.

Sakimoto: Second greatest composer who is still alive: My favourite song, look how rich the orchestration is: XTHost.info download page

Hamauzu: "The" greatest composer and he's still alive: Random song not his best though: XTHost.info download page

More info and more songs here: http://www.youngcomposers.com/forum/masashi-hamauzu-7193-2.html

Watanabe: Quite interesting in chord progression, maybe not the greatest composer, but certainly creative and still alive. Master in catchy melodies: XTHost.info download page

Thanks!

Wodan was really cool. I also really like Staff Roll.