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It's called stage presence guys, and I'm suprised there aren't a lot of people that understand this.

Life performance is just that, live. If you do not give something the audience to look at, they will fall asleep no matter how good the music is.

In the case of "convulsions" Keith Garret is a good example. Amazing piano player. Most likely the best ever in the world imo.

Now when it comes to moving around jazz performers take the cake. I for one can't stand still while playing.

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Life performance is just that, live. If you do not give something the audience to look at, they will fall asleep no matter how good the music is.

Um, no. I'm quite content watching inanimate orchestras/soloists.

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It's called stage presence guys, and I'm suprised there aren't a lot of people that understand this.

Stage presence has little to do with how you look/act on stage. It's what comes out of your horn that gives you presence - you can be authoritative and 'present' or flop around and 'get way into it' all you want, but if you're playing is weak then you've got no real presence.

I don't care what you look like on stage...just play your music, and I'll listen.

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It's called stage presence guys, and I'm suprised there aren't a lot of people that understand this.

Life performance is just that, live. If you do not give something the audience to look at, they will fall asleep no matter how good the music is.

In the case of "convulsions" Keith Garret is a good example. Amazing piano player. Most likely the best ever in the world imo.

Now when it comes to moving around jazz performers take the cake. I for one can't stand still while playing.

Yes, moving around is important....for stupid audiences.

All that should matter is the quality of playing, not how entertaining the performer is. Listerners should be just that, listeners. Of course, I don

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Unless you're talking about Percussion recitals. Part of percussive artistry is movement. I'm kind of confused as to why it hasn't been brought up by anybody else. Guess there aren't alot of drummers here.

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...Part of percussive artistry is movement. I'm kind of confused as to why it hasn't been brought up..,

It's been mentioned, and I think the debate here is limited to performers who use extraneous and superfluous movement.

Moving around to play a massive concert marimba is one thing, swinging your arms in huge circles and moonwalking back and forth is another...

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Yes, moving around is important....for stupid audiences.

There are a lot of non-musicians that would probably find that comment offensive.

Not everyeone is a musician in the audience.

Ironcially one thing that was the coolest stage presence act is when I saw Michael Brecker playing a 8th/16th note run while playing a bop tune at 240bpm, and he didn't move one ince the whole time. I enjoyed it because it's something different compared to what a lot of jazz musicians do.

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[re: moving around is important...for stupid audiences]There are a lot of non-musicians that would probably find that comment offensive.

Not everyeone is a musician in the audience.

Replace 'stupid' with 'ignorant' ... What he means is, John Q Public often finds a performance more pleasing when the performer seems to be 'into the music' more, regardless of the actual musical value of the performance.

Ironcially one thing that was the coolest stage presence act is when I saw Michael Brecker playing a 8th/16th note run while playing a bop tune at 240bpm, and he didn't move one ince the whole time. I enjoyed it because it's something different compared to what a lot of jazz musicians do.

Not really ironic, Michael Brecker was one of the most seriously commanding voices in modern music. Did you enjoy the performance because he didn't move around; or because the notes played were probably some of the hippest scraggy of all time? It doesn't matter if he moved or not, that's not what the music is about, is it?

Either way, it was likely a kick donkey show - you're lucky to have seen Brecker in action, he is sorely missed by the jazz community.

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